1 00:00:05,210 --> 00:00:02,180 hi this is Jimmy church have fade to 2 00:00:09,110 --> 00:00:05,220 black and coast to coast am and recently 3 00:00:13,610 --> 00:00:09,120 the National Solar Observatory was 4 00:00:15,980 --> 00:00:13,620 raided and evacuated by the FBI there 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:15,990 was a lot of mystery surrounding why 6 00:00:22,849 --> 00:00:19,050 they did this and what is going on in 7 00:00:26,420 --> 00:00:22,859 sunspot New Mexico with the evacuation 8 00:00:29,570 --> 00:00:26,430 and the total shutdown of information to 9 00:00:32,780 --> 00:00:29,580 the media and the public as to why they 10 00:00:36,410 --> 00:00:32,790 went in and evacuated the compound and 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:36,420 the United States Post Office right 12 00:00:41,270 --> 00:00:36,930 there 13 00:00:44,690 --> 00:00:41,280 so today is September 14th 2018 and I 14 00:00:47,950 --> 00:00:44,700 interviewed ransom Godwin who went up 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:47,960 two days ago on September 12th and 16 00:00:54,590 --> 00:00:50,370 videotaped the compound 17 00:00:57,170 --> 00:00:54,600 what follows is his video documentation 18 00:01:00,319 --> 00:00:57,180 in the interview I conducted with him 19 00:01:02,990 --> 00:01:00,329 today does this answer all of the 20 00:01:06,170 --> 00:01:03,000 questions that we have absolutely not 21 00:01:09,020 --> 00:01:06,180 but it certainly shows you exactly what 22 00:01:15,859 --> 00:01:09,030 is going on right now up at the National 23 00:01:18,580 --> 00:01:15,869 Solar Observatory what day did you the 24 00:01:22,010 --> 00:01:18,590 video was posted today September 14th 25 00:01:23,660 --> 00:01:22,020 actually I posted it yesterday yeah what 26 00:01:26,420 --> 00:01:23,670 up there filmed on the 12th I believe it 27 00:01:28,179 --> 00:01:26,430 was so okay so this was shot on 28 00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:28,189 September 12th what time did you arrive 29 00:01:32,569 --> 00:01:31,110 um well you know I think it was I 30 00:01:34,399 --> 00:01:32,579 believe it was like 1:00 in the 31 00:01:35,899 --> 00:01:34,409 afternoon so I'm not mistaken I'm not 32 00:01:38,060 --> 00:01:35,909 really sure on the time it was sometime 33 00:01:39,679 --> 00:01:38,070 in the midday though because I got a 34 00:01:41,660 --> 00:01:39,689 late start and had to drive up the 35 00:01:43,370 --> 00:01:41,670 mountain when you I'm not really sure it 36 00:01:46,429 --> 00:01:43,380 was between 1:00 and 3:00 I would say 37 00:01:49,010 --> 00:01:46,439 when you first arrived there in the 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:49,020 video I think you stated that there was 39 00:01:54,649 --> 00:01:52,530 a sheriff there yes there's a sheriff's 40 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:54,659 deputy there and he seemed to be 41 00:01:59,090 --> 00:01:56,610 checking out a car that was parked on 42 00:02:03,139 --> 00:01:59,100 the road and let me tell you from living 43 00:02:05,179 --> 00:02:03,149 here he seemed very uninterested around 44 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:05,189 here I mean I'm not trying to be mean to 45 00:02:08,419 --> 00:02:06,570 the law enforcement but they're really 46 00:02:10,130 --> 00:02:08,429 pushy and nosy about what people are 47 00:02:12,170 --> 00:02:10,140 doing when they check someone out so it 48 00:02:13,790 --> 00:02:12,180 was really odd to me that he just left 49 00:02:15,860 --> 00:02:13,800 without asking me anything 50 00:02:19,190 --> 00:02:15,870 he saw me with cameras and every day and 51 00:02:21,650 --> 00:02:19,200 he just bounced so so you you proceeded 52 00:02:26,450 --> 00:02:21,660 up the hill with your son you you're 53 00:02:29,060 --> 00:02:26,460 both shooting video and the first thing 54 00:02:33,140 --> 00:02:29,070 that struck me that also struck you is 55 00:02:37,220 --> 00:02:33,150 there was nobody there no FBI no 56 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:37,230 security no security guards nothing it 57 00:02:41,690 --> 00:02:40,530 was just a virtual ghost town yeah 58 00:02:44,300 --> 00:02:41,700 that's right 59 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:44,310 you went around started to try to open 60 00:02:51,140 --> 00:02:48,690 up doors how many doors overall were 61 00:02:54,050 --> 00:02:51,150 unlocked what were you able to walk into 62 00:02:56,540 --> 00:02:54,060 and take a look around that's the thing 63 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:56,550 is I actually didn't find any unlock 64 00:03:01,040 --> 00:02:58,410 doors most of the doors from the 65 00:03:02,990 --> 00:03:01,050 observatory and the lab that I came 66 00:03:05,870 --> 00:03:03,000 across were locked so you know of course 67 00:03:08,300 --> 00:03:05,880 I didn't try to do anything else so I 68 00:03:11,990 --> 00:03:08,310 never went in any place I just looked in 69 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:12,000 the windows was the housing that you 70 00:03:18,710 --> 00:03:14,970 looked at was it emptied of any stuff or 71 00:03:20,900 --> 00:03:18,720 were the belongings still inside um all 72 00:03:23,630 --> 00:03:20,910 of the places that I saw pretty much had 73 00:03:26,330 --> 00:03:23,640 you know anything that wasn't of 74 00:03:28,910 --> 00:03:26,340 immediate use was just kind of left 75 00:03:31,510 --> 00:03:28,920 there and they seemed to have taken the 76 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:31,520 time to board up most of the residences 77 00:03:36,770 --> 00:03:33,810 so you can't look inside of them 78 00:03:39,290 --> 00:03:36,780 what do you mean the windows had I mean 79 00:03:40,970 --> 00:03:39,300 like it looked like they boarded it up 80 00:03:44,570 --> 00:03:40,980 for like a hurricane or something you 81 00:03:47,449 --> 00:03:44,580 know like all of the windows had plywood 82 00:03:50,390 --> 00:03:47,459 in them so some people took some time to 83 00:03:54,820 --> 00:03:50,400 board up the houses before they left at 84 00:03:58,880 --> 00:03:54,830 least and and another shot is an x-files 85 00:03:59,570 --> 00:03:58,890 DVD suspiciously on the top of a trash 86 00:04:01,510 --> 00:03:59,580 can 87 00:04:04,150 --> 00:04:01,520 yeah I thought that was funny in that 88 00:04:06,530 --> 00:04:04,160 but it is yeah it was the x-files 89 00:04:09,110 --> 00:04:06,540 ultimate access I believe it said or 90 00:04:10,850 --> 00:04:09,120 something like that or something to that 91 00:04:13,270 --> 00:04:10,860 effect but yes that was bizarre that the 92 00:04:15,830 --> 00:04:13,280 only thing that we really saw was 93 00:04:17,900 --> 00:04:15,840 x-files reference kind of like somebody 94 00:04:20,030 --> 00:04:17,910 was playing a joke or leaving a clue or 95 00:04:22,730 --> 00:04:20,040 you know I'm not really sure but it was 96 00:04:24,140 --> 00:04:22,740 oddly placed on top of the trash can 97 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:24,150 right next to the window so you could 98 00:04:27,439 --> 00:04:25,890 see it one of the other things that 99 00:04:31,070 --> 00:04:27,449 struck me about 100 00:04:32,420 --> 00:04:31,080 the compound was how many vehicles were 101 00:04:34,879 --> 00:04:32,430 left behind 102 00:04:37,999 --> 00:04:34,889 how many cars and vehicles did you see I 103 00:04:39,499 --> 00:04:38,009 think about well including work vehicles 104 00:04:41,029 --> 00:04:39,509 and stuff because that's the the 105 00:04:43,219 --> 00:04:41,039 majority of the vehicles that I saw 106 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:43,229 there were all government tagged you 107 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:44,490 know like they had the Sun SPOT 108 00:04:48,499 --> 00:04:46,650 Observatory logo on them or they were 109 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:48,509 just a playing car with government tags 110 00:04:53,689 --> 00:04:51,810 and I would say probably four or five 111 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:53,699 just regular cars but they did have a 112 00:04:58,070 --> 00:04:56,490 lot of work trucks equipment and a real 113 00:05:01,339 --> 00:04:58,080 bizarre thing is they have a maintenance 114 00:05:03,379 --> 00:05:01,349 garage there and the bay was open and 115 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:03,389 there's tools and all kinds of stuff in 116 00:05:07,070 --> 00:05:05,250 there but there's no one around to watch 117 00:05:09,140 --> 00:05:07,080 it so it was kind of bizarre that they 118 00:05:10,610 --> 00:05:09,150 didn't even close up the I guess that's 119 00:05:12,230 --> 00:05:10,620 a maintenance bay or whatever they 120 00:05:14,510 --> 00:05:12,240 didn't even close it up or lock it up so 121 00:05:15,709 --> 00:05:14,520 it appears that anybody could go up 122 00:05:18,499 --> 00:05:15,719 there and do whatever they want 123 00:05:21,110 --> 00:05:18,509 including yourself or anybody else well 124 00:05:24,589 --> 00:05:21,120 this is just an opinion of mine but it 125 00:05:26,209 --> 00:05:24,599 seems to be that they're trying to you 126 00:05:27,890 --> 00:05:26,219 know kind of make it seem like it's no 127 00:05:29,510 --> 00:05:27,900 big deal there's nobody watching it 128 00:05:31,430 --> 00:05:29,520 there's you know like you said there's 129 00:05:32,450 --> 00:05:31,440 really no info out about it it seems 130 00:05:35,420 --> 00:05:32,460 like they're going out of their way to 131 00:05:37,159 --> 00:05:35,430 try to make it where you know it's 132 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:37,169 nothing don't worry about it nothing's 133 00:05:40,969 --> 00:05:38,849 happening there but at the same time the 134 00:05:43,550 --> 00:05:40,979 oddness of no information make sure it 135 00:05:46,730 --> 00:05:43,560 more that much more of a mystery were 136 00:05:48,529 --> 00:05:46,740 you able to check out the computers that 137 00:05:51,159 --> 00:05:48,539 are up there condemned ones that I fall 138 00:05:53,570 --> 00:05:51,169 through the windows we're all older 139 00:05:55,820 --> 00:05:53,580 computers like I didn't see any laptops 140 00:05:58,309 --> 00:05:55,830 or anything so like anything that's real 141 00:05:59,839 --> 00:05:58,319 computers or you know hard drives or 142 00:06:00,519 --> 00:05:59,849 servers or anything like that I didn't 143 00:06:03,980 --> 00:06:00,529 see anything 144 00:06:06,019 --> 00:06:03,990 up-to-date left behind yeah and was 145 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:06,029 everything did it look disturbed like 146 00:06:09,619 --> 00:06:08,849 maybe some things were there but were 147 00:06:12,290 --> 00:06:09,629 removed 148 00:06:14,659 --> 00:06:12,300 maybe newer computers oh yeah yeah 149 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:14,669 that's there's a lot of desks in there 150 00:06:18,559 --> 00:06:16,770 and stuff like that that you could tell 151 00:06:20,659 --> 00:06:18,569 where people's workstations or whatever 152 00:06:23,149 --> 00:06:20,669 and that they're just empty now they 153 00:06:24,980 --> 00:06:23,159 took whatever they had and bounced I 154 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:24,990 wanted to ask you around some the 155 00:06:30,409 --> 00:06:27,810 reports of helicopters you live in the 156 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:30,419 area did you see any Blackhawk 157 00:06:35,629 --> 00:06:32,490 helicopters flying around yourself last 158 00:06:37,790 --> 00:06:35,639 week no I didn't but let me tell you we 159 00:06:39,420 --> 00:06:37,800 live in Otero County so to see a black 160 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:39,430 helicopters not that 161 00:06:44,190 --> 00:06:41,770 here we're next to Holloman Air Force 162 00:06:45,990 --> 00:06:44,200 Base Fort Bliss and the White Sands 163 00:06:49,350 --> 00:06:46,000 Missile Range is right next to us a 164 00:06:51,090 --> 00:06:49,360 really high amount of government money 165 00:06:53,630 --> 00:06:51,100 that's been spent in this area because 166 00:06:56,940 --> 00:06:53,640 we're also 90 miles north of the border 167 00:06:58,350 --> 00:06:56,950 there are also reports everything is a 168 00:07:01,230 --> 00:06:58,360 rumor right now 169 00:07:03,990 --> 00:07:01,240 you know alien content et contact 170 00:07:07,020 --> 00:07:04,000 something was seen by the Sun but 171 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:07,030 there's another story traveling around 172 00:07:14,370 --> 00:07:11,530 the net that the Chinese had some type 173 00:07:19,020 --> 00:07:14,380 of antenna array installed up there and 174 00:07:22,230 --> 00:07:19,030 was monitoring and spying on white sands 175 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:22,240 did you see any evidence of anything 176 00:07:27,090 --> 00:07:23,730 like that that was out of place 177 00:07:29,010 --> 00:07:27,100 no I didn't and not only that the way 178 00:07:31,500 --> 00:07:29,020 that the mountain set up here all you 179 00:07:33,330 --> 00:07:31,510 would need is a telescopic lens and you 180 00:07:35,850 --> 00:07:33,340 know anything to watch anything in the 181 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:35,860 valley it's not hard to see the white 182 00:07:40,140 --> 00:07:38,530 sands or Holloman Air Force Base a lot 183 00:07:41,700 --> 00:07:40,150 of people concentrate on the white sand 184 00:07:44,610 --> 00:07:41,710 thing because it's a little more famous 185 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:44,620 but Holloman is actually where most of 186 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:46,690 the secret testing that they've done all 187 00:07:51,450 --> 00:07:50,530 the way back since the 50s and actually 188 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:51,460 you know I don't know if you know 189 00:07:56,070 --> 00:07:53,410 there's a couple stories of like UFOs 190 00:07:57,810 --> 00:07:56,080 actually landing at Holloman yes and to 191 00:08:00,180 --> 00:07:57,820 see lights in the sky in this valley is 192 00:08:02,790 --> 00:08:00,190 really not uncommon did you see anything 193 00:08:07,140 --> 00:08:02,800 up there that was left behind like food 194 00:08:10,890 --> 00:08:07,150 any any trash any evidence of of people 195 00:08:14,070 --> 00:08:10,900 being there or did they just sanitized 196 00:08:16,740 --> 00:08:14,080 the entire compound actually sanitized I 197 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:16,750 think would be a you know a correct word 198 00:08:21,060 --> 00:08:18,250 because it did look like there was a 199 00:08:23,580 --> 00:08:21,070 thorough cleaning and moving as far as 200 00:08:25,050 --> 00:08:23,590 like and one of the hallways the one 201 00:08:27,150 --> 00:08:25,060 with the x-file thing you can see that 202 00:08:28,620 --> 00:08:27,160 someone had recently mopped the floor in 203 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:28,630 there and there was footprints through 204 00:08:32,190 --> 00:08:30,490 the wet through the wet mopping that 205 00:08:34,350 --> 00:08:32,200 dried so you could see the footprints up 206 00:08:36,750 --> 00:08:34,360 and down the hall and all of the glass 207 00:08:38,730 --> 00:08:36,760 and everything is clean on all of the 208 00:08:40,950 --> 00:08:38,740 buildings like really clean so it was 209 00:08:42,390 --> 00:08:40,960 recently cleaned and there was an odd 210 00:08:44,190 --> 00:08:42,400 smell there I don't know if that was a 211 00:08:46,170 --> 00:08:44,200 cleaning agent or what it was I didn't 212 00:08:47,610 --> 00:08:46,180 recognize the smell but if it was really 213 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:47,620 strong coming from all of the main 214 00:08:53,490 --> 00:08:51,130 building ultimately Ransome what do you 215 00:08:55,470 --> 00:08:53,500 think is going on here 216 00:08:58,530 --> 00:08:55,480 you know I really have no idea because 217 00:09:00,270 --> 00:08:58,540 there's such a lack of information so 218 00:09:02,850 --> 00:09:00,280 it's been there forever it's an icon in 219 00:09:05,190 --> 00:09:02,860 the area the Sun SPOT solar observatory 220 00:09:06,750 --> 00:09:05,200 everybody here knows about it and and 221 00:09:08,340 --> 00:09:06,760 then it's just up and vanished so that's 222 00:09:11,370 --> 00:09:08,350 the main thing and then the fact that 223 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:11,380 the FBI was the one shut it down you 224 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:12,730 know it just throws out all kinds of 225 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:14,770 questions of because I believe the FBI 226 00:09:19,590 --> 00:09:17,410 does investigate extraterrestrial stuff 227 00:09:21,270 --> 00:09:19,600 or at least they used to and they also 228 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:21,280 are in charge of any kind of you know 229 00:09:26,220 --> 00:09:23,920 terrorist thing that's done through the 230 00:09:27,750 --> 00:09:26,230 mail or anything like that so it's up 231 00:09:30,540 --> 00:09:27,760 for grabs what could possibly happen 232 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:30,550 there and if there was any type of 233 00:09:37,890 --> 00:09:33,490 hazardous materials dumped into the 234 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:37,900 community wouldn't you expect the FBI or 235 00:09:43,290 --> 00:09:40,330 Homeland Security or the local sheriff's 236 00:09:45,180 --> 00:09:43,300 department to keep the community 237 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:45,190 informed about anything that was 238 00:09:49,830 --> 00:09:47,770 dangerous and could affect you know the 239 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:49,840 local drinking water or the wildlife or 240 00:09:54,930 --> 00:09:53,170 anything else yeah you wouldn't you 241 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:54,940 would hope so and you would think so but 242 00:09:58,980 --> 00:09:56,770 you know I don't know it seems like the 243 00:10:01,440 --> 00:09:58,990 Sheriff's Department either genuinely 244 00:10:03,510 --> 00:10:01,450 doesn't have any idea about it or they 245 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:03,520 were told that don't worry about it but 246 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:05,710 you know it is strange that the only bit 247 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:07,330 of security that they put up there is 248 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:10,210 this tiny caution tape that just goes 249 00:10:13,110 --> 00:10:12,130 across the road and a small portable 250 00:10:16,470 --> 00:10:13,120 stop sign 251 00:10:19,050 --> 00:10:16,480 Ransome I got a thank you man for for 252 00:10:21,870 --> 00:10:19,060 all of this and having the courage to go 253 00:10:25,290 --> 00:10:21,880 up there and shoot this amazing footage 254 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:25,300 up at the National Solar Observatory did 255 00:10:29,700 --> 00:10:27,250 somebody at the observatory see 256 00:10:32,370 --> 00:10:29,710 something was this communicated around 257 00:10:35,550 --> 00:10:32,380 the world to other observatories was it 258 00:10:37,680 --> 00:10:35,560 et was it something solar with our own 259 00:10:39,870 --> 00:10:37,690 Sun this is certainly one of the great 260 00:10:40,950 --> 00:10:39,880 mysteries playing out in real time in 261 00:10:42,660 --> 00:10:40,960 this country 262 00:10:45,270 --> 00:10:42,670 Jimmy Church of fade to black and 263 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:45,280 coast-to-coast am we broadcast Monday